By that I mean, first and foremost, badly written. Pratchett has never been a great stylist but he's always had a distinctive style, a sardonic, wildly inventive, and of course quite funny narrative voice with which he establishes a setting, a character, and a mood in a few quick sentences or a line of dialogue. That sharpness is missing from Snuff, and particularly from its first hundred pages, in which its scene and premise are established. Instead we get long, belabored paragraphs that lay their information before us inelegantly and with little flair. Take, for example, the following bit of dialogue:
"I have no objection to people taking substances that make them feel better or more contented, or, for that matter, see little dancing purple fairies--or even their god if it comes to it. It's their brain, after all, and society can have no claim on it, providing they're not operating heavy machinery at the time. However, to sell drugs to trolls that actually make their heads explode is simply murder, the capital crime. I am glad to say that Commander Vimes fully agrees with me on this issue."There are a number of things wrong with this paragraph. First, and most obviously, it's not funny, and what little bit of joke there was to begin with is smothered to death by the long, circuitous, increasingly pious route that the argument takes on its way to the punchline, piling sub-clause upon sub-clause in its haste to establish the Correct position on drugs. Then there's the completely overblown, overemphasized conclusion--did you know that selling people a substance that kills them is murder, and that murder is a crime? And that this is a stance on which one would be glad to find others in agreement with one? And then the obvious deck-stacking involved in the implausible, economically untenable concept of a drug that makes its users' heads explode (later in the novel we're told that this only happens after several hits, but that's still a pretty shoddy business model when you consider that trafficking in these drugs is punishable by death), which is paid off later in the novel when the villains turn out to be drug dealers, whom we can now hate without compromising our libertarian principles.
But what's really wrong with this paragraph is that it is spoken by Vetinari. The man who in other Discworld novels conveys volumes with a word or even a raised eyebrow is here reduced to so much empty drivel. Nor is he alone--Snuff is characterized by a tendency to use fifty words where ten would have made the point so much better. When we first see Vimes, he is miserably trying to alleviate the itching caused by his socks. A previous Discworld novel would have deemed it sufficient tell us that "For the hundredth time he considered telling his wife that among her sterling qualities, and they were many, knitting did not feature" and leave us to draw the obvious conclusion from the fact that Vimes doesn't. Snuff not only feels it incumbent upon it to explain that to malign her knitting would break Sybil's heart, but goes on to explain that
Samuel Vimes, who had never gone into a place of worship with religious aforethought, worshiped Lady Sybil, and not a day went past without his being amazed that she seemed to do the same to him. He had made her his wife and she had made him a millionaire; with her behind him the sad, desolate, penniless and cynical copper was a rich and powerful duke.Even if we take this as a potted introduction to both characters, it's terribly awkward and creates an impression of them that is sadly borne out by the rest of the book, in which the Vimes marriage, delicately established in previous books as a loving bond between two complicated people who value and respect each other's individuality, is turned into a no less loving, but much more aggravating, stream of marital clichés--Sybil is "a higher power," Vimes muses that there is "no point in arguing with Sybil, because even if you thought that you'd won, it would turn out, by some magic unavailable to husbands, that you had, in fact, been totally misinformed" while Sybil "took the view that her darling husband's word was law for the City Watch while, in her own case, it was a polite suggestion to be graciously considered", and much is made of her ironclad control over Vimes's diet.
Snuff begins with Sybil having exerted her Little Woman powers to shanghai Vimes into a vacation in the country, where she is a major landowner. Or rather, where Vimes is the landowner, Sybil having transferred her estates to him upon their marriage. At first glance, this is actually a rather brilliant premise. Vimes's trajectory throughout the Discworld series has been one of meteoric ascent, from Captain to Commander, from Commander to Knight, from Knight to Duke. These last two should pose a problem for the staunchly republican Vimes, but Pratchett has been careful to use his elevated circumstances to bring Vimes in contact with an increasingly prominent class of criminals. Every time he rises in rank, his opponents rise as well--as Sir Samuel, he bumps heads with the Ankh Morpork aristocracy; as His Grace, the Duke of Ankh, he deals with foreign heads of state--and they treat him with the same familiar disdain, thus validating Vimes's self-image as an underdog, and justifying his participation in the aristocratic system by arguing that the title opens doors and enables his police work (from which, to Vimes's mind, his only true authority stems). Snuff reverses this trend. It strips the vacationing Vimes of his policeman's badge and confronts him with people who are not only his social inferiors but his actual tenants. Which is obviously a very meaty, fresh angle on the character, and when Jethro, the local blacksmith, confronts Vimes, who is gingerly trying on the role of magnanimous landlord, with the simple fact that he has become something he used to hate, and challenges him to explain by what right he should have so much while others have so little, it really seems as if the novel might do something new with the character.
Unfortunately, doing something new with Vimes doesn't seem to be on Pratchett's to do list. He undercuts Jethro by depicting him as a bullying oaf, and by showing us that many of the people he claims to speak for actually value the feudal system (which is, obviously, an important part of the debate about class, but not when that debate is as one-sided as it is in Snuff). Later, when the novel's actual plot emerges, the class issue is shoved to the side. Jethro is kidnapped, Vimes rescues him, and it turns out that his dislike of nobility stems from a run-in with the other, bad aristocrats, who just happen to be the villains of the novel and the people Vimes is about to arrest. True, at Snuff's end, Jethro is still distrustful of the aristocracy. But he's also become a local constable and accepts Vimes's superiority as a policeman. The message seems to be that as long as there is a law, and that law is applied equally to rich and poor alike, it doesn't matter if one man lives in a castle and the other in a hovel, or if the class system tells both that one is better than the other. This is iffy in itself, but it also has the effect of making Vimes seem like a smaller, pettier person than he used to be. He spends the early portions of the novel halfheartedly poking at the injustice of the feudal system, but it soon becomes clear that what's bothering him is the possibility that someone might mistake him for a willing, rather than grudging, participant in it. When a tenant recalls his grandfather's gratitude to the former lord for giving him a half-dollar, Vimes "squirmed inside, knowing that the supposedly generous old drunkard would have had more money than you could ever imagine, and here was a working man pathetically grateful for a hand-out from the old piss artist." The rage that characterizes Vimes is replaced with this squirming embarrassment, which prioritizes his own ability to feel good about himself over the question of whether there actually is something to feel good about.
In light of this, it's perhaps fortunate that the class warfare angle is dropped almost as soon as it is introduced (nor is this the only plot element in Snuff to be so unceremoniously discarded; an early scene acts as an extended Pride and Prejudice parody and even involves Vimes inspiring the Discworld equivalent of Jane Austen, but all the characters involved disappear until the novel's epilogue, where their sole purpose is to be part of an especially clunky joke). This is in favor of that perennial Discworld, and particularly Sam Vimes, theme, A Reviled Non-Human Species is Oppressed, Now Let's Learn That Prejudice is Wrong. Having gone over this ground with dwarfs, trolls, golems, vampires, werewolves, zombies, gnomes, orcs, and even women, Pratchett seems content to throw a few of the template's greatest hits at the page, and the result is muddled and contradictory.
The Reviled Non-Human Species this time around are goblins, who are apparently viewed as vermin for their disgusting superstitions about bodily fluids. Or maybe they're viewed as vermin because their desperate conditions force them to live in squalor. Several characters comment on the goblins' downtrodden demeanor, the way that they've bought into society's disdain for them, but then a local author informs Vimes that they actually have a rich, complicated culture that they conceal from humans (naturally, she disappears from the narrative after imparting this information). Slavery comes into the story at one point, but so halfheartedly that its sole purpose seems to be to make the rather obvious point that Slavery is Wrong, without exploring any of the reasons that it is nevertheless tolerated--despite drawing a connection between slavery and luxury goods like tobacco, Snuff avoids the question of society's complicity in slavery, and by embracing the canonical, 18th and 19th century form of slavery is lets its readers, most of whom benefit from slave labor, off the hook. Instead, Snuff roots slavery in the dehumanization of the goblins, who are viewed so universally as un-people that it is necessary to pass a law that makes it illegal to enslave them. But then it tells us that it is possible to reverse this prejudice in a single night, when Sybil arranges for a concert of goblin music, which is apparently ethereally beautiful.
It would have been possible, I suppose, to weave these contradictory strands together into a whole, but Pratchett doesn't seem terribly interested in creating a coherent, compelling goblin culture (there are, for example, very few speaking goblin characters in the novel, and most of the ones we get are rather bland). The goblins are merely an excuse, a justification for Vimes to do his thing, and a means of his further glorification. Most of Snuff is spent extolling the virtues of Sam Vimes--her simpering adoration of him is one of the many ways in which the novel lobotomizes Sybil--and many insufferable passages are given over to achieving this end. In a particularly galling instance, the local constable, Feeney, arrives at the hall to arrest Vimes on a trumped-up charge. Vimes responds with what is essentially "do you know who I am, boy?" to which Feeney responds by quoting a speech by Vimes to new policemen telling them exactly where that kind of statement should be stuffed. And yet somehow, Vimes not only feels no shame at having been called out in this manner, but manages to wrest the moral high ground away from Feeney, and is later validated in this by both the young constable and the narrative. Pratchett seems to feel that he can counteract this celebration of all things Vimes by stressing Vimes's awareness of the darkness that lies within him.
It was just his own human darkness and internal enemy, which knew his every thought, which knew that every time Commander Vimes dragged some vicious and inventive murderer to such mercy or justice as the law in its erratic wisdom determined, there was another Vimes, a ghost Vimes, whose urge to chop that creature into pieces on the spot had to be chained. This, regrettably, was harder every time, and he wondered if one day that darkness would break out and claim its heritage, and he wouldn't know ... the brakes and chains and doors and locks in his head would have vanished and he wouldn't know.The problem is that we've heard this too many times before. It wasn't terribly believable the first time--Pratchett almost certainly wasn't going to drag his favorite character so low--and by now we know that Vimes isn't going to give into his darkness, and especially not in a novel in which that darkness, and Vimes's signature rage, feel so muted and so paper-thin. The effect is to make both Vimes and Pratchett seem like posers, who like to talk about darkness but have no real idea of what it is. And, of course, it means that there's no contrast to the entirely pro-Vimes slant of the rest of the novel.
As that paragraph demonstrates, Snuff's prose stabilizes quite a bit after its first hundred pages--with fewer infodumps and character and setting introductions, Pratchett settles into a by-now familiar rhythm. But this doesn't make Snuff a particularly funny novel. The main recurring gag involves Vimes's manservant Wilkins. Originally introduced as a caricature of the proper English butler who could just barely suppress his sneer at Vimes's uncouthness and his gauche insistence on doing things like shaving himself, Wilkins was transformed into a gung-ho soldier in 1997's Jingo, and in Snuff he's a former street tough whose propriety is a thin gloss concealing terrifyingly inventive killer instincts, and whose main function is as Vimes's bodyguard. Though I found the Jingo-era Wilkins more interesting than the effortlessly lethal Wilkins in Snuff, I might have been willing to tolerate him on the grounds that this sort of drift is common to secondary characters in Pratchett novels. But on top of being overused as a plot device (particularly as a way of allowing Vimes to avoid ethical quandaries without letting the bad guys get away unpunished), Wilkins is overused as a joke. When you consider that the first "proper English butler is actually a berserk street tough" joke about this character was made three Vimes books and fourteen years ago, harping on it again and again throughout Snuff just seems lazy. The freshest jokes in Snuff revolve around Young Sam, here a scientifically-minded, poo-obsessed six-year-old, but they have the effect of recalling the superior use of this character in the previous Vimes novel, Thud!, where another of his obsessions (with the picture book Where's My Cow?) drew roars of laughter where Snuff's repeated scenes of Young Sam searching out exotic specimens of excrement elicit only chuckles.
I fell in love with Terry Pratchett's writing nearly twenty years ago, but that infatuation has faded, and for the better part of the last decade I've felt a little like someone who lets fondness and the memory of better days blind her to the fact that the spark isn't there any more. I don't know if Snuff is my breakup novel. Maybe I'll stop reading Pratchett entirely. Maybe I'll stop reading Vimes novels. And maybe by the time his next book comes out the good memories will have won out over the bad. What I do know is that after this book I'll never be able to approach a Pratchett novel with the same expectations--modest as they were--that I did before, and that there's a part of me that wishes I'd given him up before this book, and left myself with rosier memories.
19 comments:
Interesting review, seems persuasive enough to impact on or inhibit my own reading of Snuff. I only started on Pratchett over the past two years and have read mostly the more recent stuff, so the nostalgia/disappointment factor was somewhat removed for me. I recognize that Guards! Guards, Mort and others are a lot better than the more recent material, but also haven't experienced them as sinking under their own repetitiveness in the way you have. Your analysis on the unfortunate implications of Pratchett's easy humanism and progressive narrative of history seems right on the money, though.
I'm curious, did you have a more positive reaction to Night Watch than, say, Thud? It seemed to be trying something new and deliberately downplaying humor as a strategy, although it seems that the approach of dystopia as prologue reinforces some of your arguments about Ankh-Morpork's history as overly facile.
I read Night Watch around the time it came out in 2002, so my memories of it are rather hazy. At the time I was only just starting to come out of my honeymoon phase with Pratchett, and Night Watch's deviation from the Vimes formula (which even at the time was getting a little hoary) was very refreshing. I do, however, remember feeling that the book suffered from the absence of the other Watch characters, which is something that later Vimes books, and Snuff in particular, are also the worse for.
You're right, though, that Night Watch is one of the earliest and most persuasive examples of what's troubling about Pratchett's humanist vision. It doesn't matter that Vetinari is a tyrant, because he's a good tyrant, and in Night Watch we see the kind of bad tyrant he replaced (this is probably why neither Pratchett nor Vetinari ever seem to have given any thought to what happens to Ankh Morpork after his death). And in Snuff, it doesn't matter that Vimes has so much power, or that there is, among policemen, such a cult of personality surrounding him, because he would never abuse his powers - except in the way that he does in the book.
Speaking only to your comment about the Patrician: I have thought since as far back as Going Postal that it was obvious that Vetinari was grooming Moist to be his successor. I don't know what impact Pratchett's health is/will have on that, and it may not have been true. But it certainly seems to me in those books that Vetinari has an undercurrent of awareness of his own mortality.
Huh. That should have been signed James A. I think I've decided to hate social networking.
I've heard, although from a second-hand source, that Pratchett's Alzheimers forced him to dictate this novel, and then he was unable to edit it as much as usual. That would explain a lot of the shoddier writing (and the strange absence of Death), but I almost hope it's not true, for the sake of his cognitive health.
James:
I'd forgotten about Moist. I got the same vibe off him (less from Going Postal than from Making Money, though), but I'm not sure I agree that Vetinari, or anyone around him, seems aware of his mortality and of the need for another leader. And, of course, replacing one tyrant with another doesn't solve the inherent problems of Pratchett's worldbuilding - if anything, it exacerbates them.
lizbee:
I hadn't even clocked that Death wasn't in Snuff. Don't know if that's related to Pratchett's illness (which may very well be the reason that the earlier parts of the novel are so poorly written), but it certainly doesn't help with the sense that permeates the novel that there is very little at stake.
Ugh, Snuff sounds dire. I hated Thud!- I actually discovered this blog because I was desperately trawling the internet for someone else who felt it was as stale and Vimes Marty Stu-ifying as I did, and to date you remain the only person who seems to share my low opinion of it- so I'm sorry to hear that Snuff is even worse, especially because I felt Unseen Academicals was flawed but tolerable.
In Thud! there's this one scene where Vimes is running late for his 6:00 Where's My Cow? reading and he actually has the Watch stop the traffic so his coach can race down a clear street to get him home in time. I remember thinking at the time that a) this was exactly the kind of privileged bullshit- a noble inconveniencing the entire city to spare himself the consequences of his own bad timekeeping- that would once have made Vimes go spare, and b) that this, not his overplayed dark side/demonic possessor, was the internal enemy he needed to fight in future books. It's incredibly frustrating and depressing to learn that not only did Pratchett fail to address this, he actually flaunted the failure by giving Vimes frickin' tenants and then refusing to have any intelligent discussion of the feudal or class systems.
Re. Vetinari's succession, to Vetinari's credit (though possibly not to Pratchett's), he seems to be making a substantial effort to create a more pluralistic society. It's clear from Night Watch that the Patricians have always served at the pleasure of the City Council, and when they want a new one they remove the current one from office and the mortal coil. But it also seems clear that the guilds and other NGOs are much more powerful now than they were in Winder's time, and the powers of the Palace have correspondingly diminished. Ankh-Morpork now has a powerful and independent press, which is hugely important for a free society, and various groups like the seamstresses who didn't have representation on the Council now do. While the city still doesn't have an elected legislature or an independent judiciary, the Watch have become much more independent of the Patrician, to the point where law enforcement is almost politically neutral. By opening up the city to other races who don't respect the old human power structures Vetinari has stripped the nobles of much of their historical authority: power now rests primarily in the hands of commercial interests, rather than the nobility.
It's still a far cry from democracy, but it's becoming a much more inclusive oligarchy. Whoever Vetinari's successor may be (and Moist does seem like the most likely candidate) he will be much less powerful than Vetinari was initially, because Vetinari has been steadily dispersing the Palace's powers for most of his tenure.
Whether or not Pratchett himself has noticed this is open to question, especially given what you say about Snuff. But if he were never to write another Discworld book, the overall message of Vetinari's plot arc would not be that benevolent tyranny is the best form of government, but that the benevolence of tyrants can be discerned in their efforts to push their cities towards democracy.
Thanks for this, Abigail. You've touched on a lot of what made made me uncomfortable with Snuff - even though I did enjoy it on the whole.
I didn't think Sybil was quite as badly done as you did; the marital cliches grated rather a lot, but I thought we saw more of her as an actual, flawed character than in earlier books. Or it's entirely possible that I read it this way because I was so frustrated by the slavery aspects of the plot. I wanted very much to *like* this book more.
Do you think this may have anything to do with his illness? Just a question - no judgement on your review is intended but it could be a possible factor in the decline in quality. I believe that there was a pretty distinct change in Iris Murdoch's writing as her disease progressed.
I've also heard that Pratchett is dictating rather than writing because of his Alzheimer's -- though I heard it said about I Shall Wear Midnight. I was really disappointed with the writing in that book, and I attributed to the fact that it was dictated (and likely not rewritten and edited to his usual standard). I haven't read Snuff yet, but it makes sense to me that Pratchett's medical issues would be affecting his writing.
Which makes me feel guilty for criticizing, but I can't help noticing the decline in quality -- and while his illness may help explain your first point, that Snuff is poorly written, it probably has less to do with the other points you made about characterizations and the repetitiveness of the Vimes plots. It makes me sad, though, to realize that we're unlikely to ever get another Pratchett novel up the standards of his past books (which I think I liked more than you).
Kit:
That's a nice potted history of the changes in Ankh Morpork, though I'm not sure I'm convinced by your final conclusion. Or, more accurately, your final conclusion draws my attention even more strongly to how implausible Pratchett's thesis is, precisely because the changes you describe are so familiar from our own 19th century. I also can't forget the fact that Pratchett ultimately comes down against populism in a lot of his stories - the fact that Vetinari, or Vimes, are so good at their jobs often justifies their doing those jobs with little oversight or accountability (and in Vimes's case, the increasingly risible argument that it's all OK because he's accountable to himself). It feels as if, at the same time that Pratchett may be creating a world moving towards democracy, his tendency to idealize his characters as Great Men devalues the notion of a government by the people.
Aishwarya:
Your point about Sybil (particularly in your post here) is interesting, but I'm not convinced that we're meant to see her as flawed. After all, Sybil's flaws, if they exist, are the same as Vimes's - a thoughtless acceptance of her privilege (admittedly, she's the one who encourages Vimes in this, but the narrative doesn't call either of them on it) and an inability to see anything wrong with killing and enslaving goblins until they do something that benefits her (make beautiful music). Given how glorified Vimes is in Snuff, it's hard to see Sybil's behavior as indicative of a flaw. The closest she comes is in apologizing to him after hearing the goblin music, but what she's apologizing for is stopping him from pursuing his investigation (or rather trying, rather halfheartedly, and failing), not being prejudiced.
That said, I do agree that Sybil is an underserved character who ought to have her own stories, but I liked her better in previous books when she felt like more of her own person within the Vimes marriage, even if she wasn't a terribly well-rounded person on her own.
Anon.:
I had a lot of discussions with myself and others about this question, and whether I ought to mention Pratchett's illness in this review (and whether, in light of that illness, I should publish the review at all). As I say to lizbee above it seems likely that the problems with prose in the earlier parts of the book are related to his disease, but whether the general staleness of the story and regressive message are rooted in it as well is, as Erin says below, less clear. These latter changes have been increasingly noticeable in Pratchett's writing for several years, and after all they're exactly the sort of problems you'd expect a writer who has been writing the same world for nearly three decades and nearly forty books to experience, disease or no. On the other hand, it may very well be that Pratchett's Alzheimer's has been affecting his writing since long before his diagnosis.
The truth is that I don't know, and because a lot of what I had to say about Snuff felt less obviously rooted in the disease (an obviousness that may, again, be nothing more than conjecture) I decided not to say anything about Pratchett's Alzheimer's in the review.
Erin:
I liked I Shall Wear Midnight a little better than you, though I also found it disappointing. I don't remember reacting very strongly to the writing, though I did feel that the novel was flatter and less vivid than previous Tiffany Aching books - which I ascribed to the limitations of the character, as I recall.
Abigail: I've been a keen follower of Pratchett for about as long as you. I haven't yet read Snuff, but I have shared your disillusionment with the decay of Sam Vimes. For me, the last decent Vimes novel was 'The Fifth Elephant', and even then Vimes was one of the weaker links in the story.
I didn't share your enjoyment of 'Night Watch', which seemed to me to miss its opportunity to explore the relationship between the Patrician and the Watch, in favour of reinforcing the halos over both Vimes and Vetinari. In particular, I thought it squandered the opportunity to show why Vetinari is considered ruthless and dangerous, when he's never actually been portrayed as doing anything worse than uttering veiled threats (which as far as we've seen, are *never* followed up on).
I guess this is a roundabout way of saying: thank you for your considered and intelligent review. I'll be reading the book anyway, and will form an opinion then on whether your detailed critique is fair, but either way I appreciate your taking the time to form and express it so clearly.
Just to add my first impressions after listening to the audiobook:
I felt that there was not enough changing between scenes, ie going from what was happening with Vimes to what was happening in other parts of the discworld and focused far too much on Vimes.
I also missed the almost rambling, digression language of the other discworld novels, throwing in funny discworld facts and asides in the same paragraph. This book tended to be very dialogue heavy.
I love the discworld series. I am a bit disappointed with this book. I feel in terms of quality, it is well below any of the other books.
Abigail, I mostly agree with your review of the book - except for the first hundred pages and the description of Vimes' and Sybil's marriage. As I read it, I was under the impression that Pratchett was trying to evoke the style and feel of a late-19th or early 20th century humorists. I was reminded of Jerome K, Jerome's description of the married life in Three Men on the Bummel, and also of P. G. Wodehouse. I was actually expecting the plot to be some sort of Agatha Christye style Manor murder mystery, possibly with the Jane Austen analogue participating in the investigation. It could have been such an interesting novel! but instead all we got was the Public Service Announcement once again.
...I thought this review was pretty much spot on. I've been reading Pratchett for, I guess, 15 years, and the last few have been a far cry from the high-points. Pratchett was always preachy, but even on re-readings of the ones from way-back-when, I find it a lot less in-your-face.
The Vetinari quote was a good pick - I literally had to put the book down for a little while after I read that.....and similarly, I don't recall Vimes soliloquizing quite so...boorishly and boringly.
I'm really stumped as to whether I'll even finish it at this point...200 pages in I had to go check online to see had anyone else noticed it was crap - and I hadn't yet even come across the vile and cheap-sounding "goblin concert" yet..
Ugh :(
I heard Pratchett (or more properly his assistant) read form Snuff at a DC convention this year. I was amazed to meet him and all ready to be wowed--only to have my frown get deeper and deeper as it went on. The scene read was the Pride and Prejudice bit where Vimes obnoxiously tells the sisters that they're all idiots for caring about marriage and dowries (when Pratchett has never really set up Discworld as a place much different from Austen's time, and independent women are usually governesses, witches, or aristocracy, but rarely just Folks with Jobs).
I thought it was just mean and petty. And Vimes came off as a boar, putting his feet on the table and telling these girls to get a job, without once considering their limitations and ability to care for themselves within their society (as men often do, but the text was clearly on Vimes' side) all the while suggesting they could become a nurse to meet a nice doctor to marry which is just...lemon juice in the wound. Get a job, but you can't be a doctor because that's men's work, and if you do get a job it's only to meet a nice man so why is Vimes complaining about their interest in marriage and society? Confine women and then berate them for filling the roles you deign to grant them--classic, and horrible. Add to that the terrible Sybil Men are from Mars, Women Are Bitches jokes and I was shaking my head at the end of the reading.
Not to mention kicking Jane Austen just seems pointless. Very timely, and relevant, and daring! Pride and Extreme Prejudice is a terrible joke but worse, I'm pretty sure I've heard it before, which is not something I ever thought I'd say about Pratchett. But the temerity and obnoxiousness of dropping this character into a parlor and having him abuse Austen for some very thin giggles and a lot of sexism boggles me. I met one of my heroes, only to end up stuck, listening to sexist writing--and he said something vaguely homophobic when I met him which upset me even further.
I love so many Pratchett books. But this one gets the stinkeye. One can argue that the prose issue is up to his illness, but he was quite coherent enough to write the book, go on tour, do documentaries, and talk for an hour, so I'm left with the uncomfortable notion that these regressive ideas represent his genuine thought, and that breaks my heart.
That got long, but I've not had anyone to talk to about the experience yet!
I had a similarly uneasy reaction to the Pride and Prejudice scene. I think that Pratchett does have something of an out from its air of condescension in that previous Discworld novels have established that women in that world do work and hold proper career-type jobs like policewoman or journalist (as opposed to "acceptably" feminine jobs like housekeeper or barmaid, though of course there are women of this type in the Discworld, and they are perhaps the majority). So you could squint and read that scene as Vimes poking at the characters' class assumptions, which are responsible for their belief that they don't need to work, rather than gender.
The problem is that Snuff is so muddled on issues of class in other respects, and that Vimes in particular comes off so badly on this point, that it's hard to accept that he deserves the moral high ground he claims here rather than being, as you say, condescending and blinded by privilege. Not to mention that trying to swallow feminist issues in issues of class is an old trick - and that looking back on his output and especially his treatment of women, it wouldn't be surprising if Pratchett took this approach - which also leaves a rather unpleasant flavor. And, as you say, the line about becoming a nurse so you can marry a doctor is infuriating, especially given that previous novels have already established the existence of Igorinas.
Not knowing Pratchett personally, it's impossible to know how much is the Alzheimers and how much is his writing growing stale. Having seen how much Alzheimers changes someone, even in its early stages, I can believe that it's mostly the Alzheimers.
I found this blog by roaming around the internet trying to find anyone else who thought there were problems with this book. It seems to be some sort of sacrilege to talk honestly about Snuff. I never realized how tight and spare Discworld dialogue was until I read this book - the characters talk and talk and talk until I just want to tell them all to SHUT UP! I heard a radio interview where Pratchett talked about using a computer word recognition program because he can't type and the book seems like it was just put down as he talked to his computer. I really think Alzheimers has affected his ability to handle something as complex as a novel and I wonder if it's affected his personality because the book was just crude and mean. It breaks my heart because I love the Discworld, especially the witches. I'm going to reread some older Discworld and remember him in his prime. Thanks for the blog posting on a touchy subject.
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