The Next Logical Step
...after killing off most of the women and characters of color:
(reported by Strange Horizons)
David Anders, best known for playing the evil British freelance spy Julian Sark on TV's "Alias", will play ancient samurai warrior Takezo Kensei in NBC's sci-fi drama "Heroes" next season.There are times when loving this show takes a lot of effort.
(reported by Strange Horizons)
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after killing off most of the women and characters of color
This is too simplistic. Taking the list on Wikipedia, 22 (46%) are female and 16 (33%) are characters of colour; of those, 6 women (27%) and 4 characters of colour (25%) died, compared to 9 of 26 men (35%) and 12 of 32 white people (38%).
This is based on a quick count, so I may have missed a few; it also ignores the events of the finale, since we don't know how many of those deaths will stick. (But since most of those deaths were male and white, they're not going to make the statistics any worse.)
Heroes has problems in its portrayal of race and gender, but the raw number of deaths isn't one of them.
it also ignores the events of the finale, since we don't know how many of those deaths will stick
My guess is none of them.
The perception is partly due to the fact that a lot of women and characters of colour died in a bunch around midseason, and it wasn't until the end of the season that they evened things up by offing all the white guys.
Where things start to get problematic is looking at the way characters have died and how the deaths have affected the other characters and the larger story. The raw numbers aren't the problem. Even looking at white hats vs black hats -- my gut reaction had been that the good women and the evil men died -- doesn't stand up. (There's also how the various characters are used while alive, of course, but that's obviously a completely separate problem.)
So I think I'm still right. Of the major character deaths, most have been of either women or characters of color.
That said, I do agree that the raw numbers are less problematic than the individual treatment of each death.
For some reason I was mentally tagging Charlie as a one-episode character. So yes, four women. I was including Papa Suresh in my count, though. Otherwise I agree with your count.
But I don't agree with your analysis. You can't compare "men of colour + women of colour + white women" to "white men", because in any set with a decent balance of races and genders that's going to come out with a larger number in the first set. (If they're killing people at the same rate regardless of race and gender, you'd expect there to be the same number of dead white women and dead white men.)
If you break it down by gender you get (Simone, Jackie, Eden Charlie) vs (Ted, Thomson, Linderman, Charles, Isaac, Papa Suresh). If you break it down by race (accepting that we're lumping all non-whites together) you get (Papa Suresh, Charles Devereaux, Simone Devereaxu, Isaac) vs. (Ted, Thomson, Linderman, Jackie, Eden, Charlie).
If the number of white men dying outnumbered all the other deaths combined, which seems to be what you're looking for, that would suggest something seriously odd was going on, probably that the source pool had far more white men in it than other types of people. So I still think the more useful statistics are (a) the proportion of characters of colour and the proportion of women in the cast as a whole (which are not bad) and (b) the separate proportions of each set that die. Those are the numbers that tells us whether one group is being disproportionately killed. And that doesn't seem to be the case.
One of the really interesting things about Heroes, when it comes to this sort of discussion, is that it has such a large pool of characters. Give it another couple of seasons at the current rate, and there'll be a big enough sample for someone with enough time and enough knowledge of statistics to do an actual comparison with the general US population and see whether there really are any significant differences in representation.
This, however, is moving closer to your argument, that we should be looking at the quality of the various deaths, not the quantity.
OK, inevitably a caveat: I can't really justify classifying Ted's death and Isaac's death differently. I would say both are move-the-plot deaths; for all that Isaac's power notionally gives wisdom, in practical terms all it's about is giving Sylar his next plot coupon. And I wouldn't say Eden's death either helped or galvanized a man.
But in general terms we're now agreeing.
I aim to please.
Re: your caveats. Isaac repeatedly states, during his death scene, that in dying he is showing the other characters how to defeat Sylar. I don't see it myself, but Heroes has never been very good at details, so I'm inclined to believe that the writers intended for Isaac to die in service of others but didn't quite manage to get the point across. While it's true that Eden doesn't die for a specific man, she puts herself in mortal danger in order to help Mohinder, and her death galvanizes both him and Bennet.
He was excellent as Sark in _Alias_, so I'd like to see him get a good role.
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